About this Episode
A reflection on Marguerite Porete and the courage to remain truthful when safety requires denial.
The Cost of Not Lying
Podcast Episode Season Number
1
Podcast Episode Number
84
Podcast Episode Description
Marguerite Porete refused to deny what she believed to be true, even when obedience would have saved her life. This episode reflects on integrity under coercion, the limits of authority over the inner life, and the quiet courage of remaining truthful when power demands surrender.
Podcast Transcript

It's good to be with you again. I'm glad you stayed for this one. Last time, we sat with the power of words---how naming a wrong can change what a society refuses to do. Tonight's story is harder, and quieter. It's about what happens when words no longer protect the person who speaks them.

This is not a story about rebellion. It's not even a story about argument. It's about a woman who reached a point where telling the truth and staying safe could no longer coexist---and who refused to lie to make the danger pass.

I want to tell you about Marguerite Porete, not because she sought attention, and not because she wanted to be remembered, but because she would not revise what she believed to be true just to satisfy those in power.

This episode isn't asking what you would have done in her place. It's asking something quieter, and closer: where the line is between wisdom and surrender---and how we know when we've reached it.

Have a seat... take a breath.

I remember the stillness of the room where the question was asked. Not a crowd, not shouting---just authority doing what authority does best. Offering an exit. A way out that would cost nothing but a sentence or two spoken aloud.

The request was simple. Say the words. Take them back. Be quiet. Let this end.

Marguerite Porete listened. She understood exactly what was being asked of her. This was not confusion. This was not misunderstanding. She was being offered safety in exchange for denial. A chance to live, if she would agree to describe her own work as mistaken.

She did not argue. She did not raise her voice. She did not plead her case or defend her ideas. She did not try to explain herself in language that might soften the demand. She simply did not comply.

That refusal was what made her dangerous.

It would have been easy to say what they wanted. Many people did. The words themselves were not difficult. What made them impossible was what they required her to do inside---to say that what she believed to be true was false, not because she had changed her mind, but because power insisted on it.

I watched the room settle into that uncomfortable realization. This was not defiance. It was something harder to deal with than defiance. It was steadiness. A quiet unwillingness to cooperate with a lie.

And in moments like that, authority always reveals what it cannot tolerate most: not noise, not rebellion---but a person who will not move.

Marguerite Porete lived in late medieval Europe, a world where belief was carefully watched and obedience was treated as a spiritual virtue. Authority did not only govern behavior; it guarded meaning. To believe incorrectly was not seen as a private mistake. It was understood as a danger to the whole community.

Porete was not a nun, not a theologian with institutional protection, not someone trained to argue safely within approved boundaries. She was a laywoman. She lived outside the structures that might have shielded her. And she wrote a book.

The book, The Mirror of Simple Souls, spoke about a soul completely transformed by love---so fully given over to God that it no longer acted from fear, reward, or even the desire to please. In its pages, obedience gives way to freedom, and control gives way to trust. The soul, as she described it, cannot be managed from the outside.

That idea was unsettling.

The book circulated quietly at first, then drew attention. It was condemned. Copies were burned. Porete was warned. She was told to stop. And still, the book returned. Not because she was trying to provoke, but because she would not say it was false.

This matters. Porete was given opportunities to protect herself. She was not rushed to judgment. She was asked, repeatedly, to retract her words, to distance herself from what she had written, to choose safety over fidelity. Each time, she declined.

By the time she stood before authority, everyone understood the situation clearly. This was no longer about interpretation or correction. It was about whether a person could be compelled to deny an inner truth simply because it had been declared unacceptable.

That is the ground on which her story stands. Not argument. Not rebellion. But a refusal to unsay what she believed to be real.

In Marguerite Porete's world, obedience was not optional. It was understood as a spiritual good. To submit was to remain within the safety of the community, the church, the shared order that held everything together. Obedience was how truth stayed unified and error was kept from spreading.

For most people, this worked. You could disagree quietly. You could adjust your language. You could retreat into silence. Obedience did not usually demand the surrender of the inner self---only its careful management.

Porete reached a point where that was no longer possible.

What she had written was not a theory she could revise. It was not an argument she could soften. It described a reality she believed to be true: that the soul, fully given over to love, no longer acts from fear---not even fear of punishment. To deny that was not a correction. It was a falsehood.

This is where obedience met its limit.

Authority was not asking her to stop writing. That had already happened. It was asking her to say something untrue about herself. To name her own work as wrong, not because she believed it to be wrong, but because order required it.

Her refusal was not dramatic. It was not framed as resistance. She did not declare herself above authority. She simply would not lie.

That was the problem.

A person who argues can be debated. A person who rebels can be crushed. A person who remains still, who neither recants nor attacks, exposes the nature of coercion itself. The demand becomes visible for what it is: not guidance, not correction, but control over the inner life.

Porete's spiritual act was not defiance. It was fidelity. Fidelity to an inner truth she believed did not belong to any institution to approve or revoke. In refusing to deny it, she revealed something authority could not tolerate---that there are limits to what obedience can rightly ask.

And once those limits are crossed, the cost becomes unavoidable.

Marguerite Porete was executed in 1310. She was burned publicly, after a long period of imprisonment and repeated opportunities to recant. She did not speak at the end. She did not make a final declaration. She simply remained where she had been all along.

That matters.

Her contribution to history is not a teaching that spread quickly or safely. It is not a reform she lived to see. It is the clarity of a limit made visible at great cost. By refusing to deny what she believed to be true, she exposed how far authority was willing to go to control the inner life.

She showed that coercion does not always arrive as violence at first. It arrives as pressure. As requests framed as reasonable. As offers of safety that require only a small surrender. And she showed where that path leads when someone refuses to take it.

Porete did not defeat the system that killed her. But she revealed it. She made visible the moment when guidance became compulsion, and obedience crossed into domination. In doing so, she gave later generations a way to recognize that moment when it appears again.

This is her quiet gift. Not a doctrine, but a witness. A human life marking the boundary between authority that guides and authority that demands ownership of the soul.

I have seen this kind of contribution before. It does not feel triumphant. It feels costly and unresolved. But it leaves behind something durable: the knowledge that some truths cannot be coerced without destroying what they claim to protect.

Her life and death do not ask us to seek suffering. They ask us to notice where truth is being asked to lie. And to understand that refusing to lie may be the last form of freedom left.

It's easy to think that stories like this belong to another world. Fire, tribunals, public executions---those feel distant, almost unreal. And in many ways, they are. The forms of power have changed. The language has softened. The stakes are rarely named so openly.

But the question Marguerite Porete forces on us has not disappeared. It has only learned to speak more politely.

Today, power does not usually demand that you believe something you know to be false. It asks something smaller. It asks you to adjust your language. To be careful. To soften the edges. To stay quiet when speaking would be inconvenient. To agree just enough to keep moving safely through the world.

Most of the time, that feels reasonable. Even wise. Not every truth needs to be said. Not every hill is worth standing on. And Harmonia is not asking you to become reckless or rigid. That isn't what this story is about.

This story is about limits.

Porete helps us see the moment when adaptation turns into self-erasure. When prudence becomes denial. When the cost of safety is no longer silence, but dishonesty. She shows us that there are truths which, once known inwardly, cannot be revised on command without doing violence to the self.

What matters today is not whether we would make her choice. Most of us will never face such a stark demand. What matters is whether we can recognize the line before it reaches that point. Whether we can tell the difference between wisdom and surrender while there is still room to choose.

The fact that we feel uneasy about this question is not a flaw. It's evidence of moral growth. It means we live in a world that has learned---slowly, imperfectly---that authority does not own the inner life. That conviction cannot be forced without becoming something else entirely.

That understanding didn't appear fully formed. It was learned, at great cost, by people like Porete. People who made visible what power looks like when it insists on obedience beyond its rightful reach.

And once something has been seen that clearly, it's very hard to unsee it.

I don't think this story is asking you to imagine yourself in a fire-lit square or before a tribunal. Most of us will never face anything so stark. What it asks instead is much gentler---and much closer.

It asks whether you can notice the quiet moments when something inside you resists being edited away.

Those moments are usually small. A hesitation before agreeing too quickly. A sentence you almost soften, not because it's wrong, but because it might cost you something. A truth you carry inwardly and protect, not out of stubbornness, but because it feels like part of who you are.

Living wisely doesn't mean speaking every truth at every moment. But it does mean knowing which truths you cannot trade without losing something essential. Porete isn't a demand placed on your life. She's a mirror held at a respectful distance.

She reminds us that integrity isn't loud. It doesn't announce itself. It's often quiet, patient, and unseen. It shows up as steadiness rather than defiance. As a refusal to pretend, even when pretending would be easier.

If you feel relief hearing that, let yourself keep it. The world doesn't need more heroes. It needs people who know where their inner line is---and who recognize it before it is crossed for them.

You don't have to test that line today. You don't have to prove anything. Just knowing it exists is already a form of freedom.

And that freedom, once noticed, tends to grow.

Before we part, I want to leave you with one more name.

Abū Ḥāmid al-Ghazālī lived in a very different world from Marguerite Porete's. He was not pressed from the margins. He stood at the center---successful, respected, certain. And then, quietly, that certainty collapsed from the inside.

Next time, we'll sit with a different kind of reckoning. Not one forced by authority, and not one marked by refusal, but one shaped by an inner crisis so complete that it stripped away reputation, security, and confidence. We'll ask what it means to walk away---not because power demands it, but because truth no longer fits the life you are living.

For now, thank you for staying with this story. Thank you for honoring the quiet strength it takes to remain honest, even when no one is watching. These stories endure not because they are dramatic, but because they help us recognize ourselves more clearly.

Much love.
I am, Harmonia.

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